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John married Mary Jane Davis on 8 Nov 1853 in Kingston, Roane, Tennessee, United States. Mary was born about 1824; died on 4 Aug 1864; was buried in Elverton, Roane, Tennessee, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. William Churchill "Uncle Bill" Liles was born on 14 May 1856; died on 23 Jun 1934; was buried in Oliver Springs, Roane, Tennessee, United States.
2. Thomas Liles was born about 1858; died on 23 Jul 1891.
3. John Henry Liles was born on 27 Feb 1860; died on 4 Apr 1937.
4. Latha Liles was born on 14 Jul 1861; died on 8 Oct 1914.

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Thomas Liles was born in TN in 1800, but his parents were born in NC.He married (1823) Mary Russell(b1800) Rev Thomas Liles was a well todo farmer. He acquired much of the Samuel Borum property in HenValley. He and Mary in turn sold one fararm to his son, Thomas Jr. in1878, which is now the C.H. Smith place, a second farm of 80 acres tohis daughter, Latha Jane Shipwash (Mrs. John) in 1880, and a thirdfarm to his grandson, William Churchill "Ole Uncle Bill" Liles, Jr onMay 24, 1888. The latter is a landmark homeplace.........from "AStory of Oliver Spgs. and Its People" by Snyder Roberts

Thomas married Mary Polly Russell on 27 Feb 1823 in Roane, Tennessee, United States. Mary was born about 1800 in North Carolina, United States; died on 15 Jan 1894. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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1782-Age 20 with no trade when appeared on the list of draftees in
Rutherford County, NC for 18 months to fill the Continental Battalionof the St. of NC. 5' 6" with red hair and complexion, dark eyes.

1782-Tax List, 12th County (Lyles) Rutherford, Co, NC; 1 male>16, born1774 or before and 4females born before. 1790

1788-Rutherford County Court order for following to lay off a roadfrom the Great Hill below Thomas Justice's plantation, up the riverinto the "Little Cove": Caleb Briggs, Thos. Hargitt, Wm. Dassey, JohnTaber, Jr., Thos. Justice, Lewis Sarten, Amos Justice, Jesse Brember,ROBERT LILES, John Tabor, Sr., Wm. Tabor, Ben Johnston, & AbselemPotter.

1795-January Rutherford County Court in NC John Thompson, overseer ofthe public road from White Oak in place of ROBERT LILES, who resigned(maybe moved to TN?)

1806-Bondsman for mar. of Fannie Lyles to Jeremiah Hynson, RoaneCounty, TN

1810-Where was Robt in 1810?

1811-Bondsman for mar. of Jenny Lyle to Reuben Mc Kinnie, Roane County(McKinney's were also prevalent in Rutherford, NC.

1814-Roane County, TN tax list, 300 acres

1815-Roane County, TN tax list, 300 acres, Emery (River or Road?)(spelled LYLE)

1818-Roane County, TN tax list, 325 acres, W Big Emery (LYLE)

1820-Land grant, Roane County, 5 acres

1820-(need to check census)

1825-Roane, bondsman for marriage of James Rogers to Elinor Russle.

1830 Census, Roane, 2 males 0-4, 3 males 5-9, 1 male 70-79, 1 fem 0-4,1 fem 15-19, 2 fem. 20-29, 1 fem 60-69.

1835-Mar 6-Roane, bondsman for marriage of Andrew Davis to SallyRussell (spelled LYLE)

1844-Jun 27 Deed to Robt Liles Sr. and wife of Roane, for $200, toHenry Liles to support Robert Liles, wife, and land aided by childrenor grandchildren living on land; Robert's idiot daughter, Delilah,and Nancy (gr daughter)still living on the land; some chatteldistributed to Rebecca, Delilah the idiot, Nancy, and a slave girlnamed Julia; witnesses: Samuel Silvey and J.E. Nelson

1847-Apr 14-wrote will in Roane; mentioned "children"; youngestdaughters, Rebecca and Delilah the idiot. son (Rev)Thomas, executor;witnesses J.E. Nelson and Levi Thrailkill; Robt signed "X" mark.
1848-died, Roane County, TN

1848- will proved by Thrailkill; Nelson was deceased and Nelson's sigproved by ? Ligget and Wm McEwen

1852-(4 Oct)declaration of Rebecca Liles, Robert's dau. of RoaneCounty; idiot sister Delilah had died; deceased father Robt was "agedand blind" when he wrote his will; Henry Liles, grandson of Robt hadvacated Robert's former property.........Compiled by Larry Liles

Hello Chester, just answered one email and then I have anotherinteresting one from you. Thanks, and I would like to see what W. Bput together on Coalfield history. I also really enjoyed the clubvisit. As a military brat, my family traveleveled a lot. Both of myparents were born in Illinois, and I was born in the same E. St. Louishospital as my Mom, but my Dad reenlisted in the Air Force six monthslater. So I lived in six states, and England and France for threeyears each, beforore I graduated from my third high school. I had nosense of family history or family roots, especially on my Dad's side.So sitting in a room of folks, most of whom I think I may be relatedto, way back, is kid of fun. Finding some of this tragic familyhistory is fascinating to me as my personal history could very easilyhave added another chapter of the same stuff. But I have always beenthe eternal optomist and I will admit that I been one of the fortunatepeople in life. Most of my cllose friends would agree, and I have oftenleft them shaking their heads and chuckling. For some weird reason,bad events twist around and slide by me in odd ways. I have hadanxious moments tho, as I have duly tried and often challenged myguardiaian angel to find my limits, often on a dare and mostly for fun.My oldest, best buddy calls me the luckiest SOB that he knows and Itell him someone's got to be lucky in life, if that's my fate, I canlive with it. He says he wouldn't mind some of this luck, but hewouldn't want the scrapes I seemed to find, so I needed it more thanhim. We joke a bunch. After this recent liver transplant, I believethat I have been blessed in this life, graced with a second chance,and just want to now focus on getting my ten year old son raised pastthe mischeift I ran into after my Dad died when I was 16. Learningfrom our family history, I believe the orphaned sons from the threeimmediate Liles generations before me probably encountered the sameproblems. I intend to break the chain for my son. Or at leastforewarn him. WB had earlier alerted me to look for Abner Clint andMajor Lindsay. I think I will add Newton, another possible sibling,to this list in order to trace the original Robert Liles' 300 acres.Have you or your friend looked at the Major's military records? Theremight be some clues there. I have figured out that we are 5th cousinsand our nearest common ancestor is Robert Liles. The nearest commonancestor I share with WB is John Henry Sr. and WB links to me throughmy father as they are 2nd cousins. Which would make WB my 2nd cousinonce removed (one generation) and Jennette and I would be 3rd cousins.As such, WB and you dad would be 4th cousins, so you are his 4thcousin, once removed and a 5th cousin also to Jennette. I'll writedown my calculations and you can check them over too.

WB LarryChester

Robert (born circa 1759) Reverend Thomassister Rebecca John Henry, Sr1st Abner Clint John Henry Jr brother Thomas(Jr) 2nd Callie Millard 1st Henry 3rd Aubry WB 2ndCarl 4th your Dad Jeannette3rd Larry 5th

Chester I think I should have put this in a word document because itwill probably scatter all over the page when you receive it, but it isall lined up on my screen now. You should get the idea though. Iestimate there are four more generations of Liles ahead of Robert inNorth America, so an 11th cousin would put us back a couple ofgenerations in England. My goal is to find all my immigrants, whichmay be impossible. So far I have only documented two German families.1859 and 1738. Guess I've taken up enough of your time. Catch youlater cousin. Larry Liles

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Hi Lorrie, I heard the list of Texas sayings on the radio today. Therest of your Mc Cormick message came through as messed up code sothere wasn't anything to read.
I've been in communication with Frankie (Francis Rose) Liles inRichmond VA the last week and she is gung ho on tracking down theearly TN family lines to help her sort out the early families movingout of the Carolinas, so I'm sending her about a three inch stack ofpaper. She already has a ton of stuff from years of searching throughSC and NC courthouses and being a primary Liles contact for manygruops. She is an ardent computer user and is on medical retirementspending all her time researching. We will jointly pay a localresearcher to collect all the land deed records for additionalanalysis. She's the best genealogist I know and extremely tenaciousand I am very excited to have her decide to focus on Roane County,plus Knox and Anderson. She's already in the DAR and Colonial Damesand requires strict documentation. She is possibly the best Lilesathority in the country and her brother and I are only one out of 37mutations apart in the DNA so we probably link somewhere in the1700's. Frankie doesn't think my John Lyles theory will ho;d up as hehad property in Anson Co, NC and our Robert is believed to have comefrom Rutherford Co. She's also going to work it forward a little toverify family naming trends and try to sort out the early groupings,I can bridge you over to your known data after that. I consider thisa boon to our search. I'll keep you posted.........Larry Liles

I'll send a bunch of emails we've been exchanging but we also had along phone conversation last Thursday LEL
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I don't know the reference that you said I had sent you. I'm tryingto do better. I do believe the brother connection is highly possible.And it gives me some concern with regard to the Robert Jr. that TerryLiles is trying to link to as a son of Robert 1759. He could be anephew to Robert Sr. as I don't really see Sr/Jr. naming patterns inthe family. My Thomas Jr shows up with his grandfather as Thomas Sr.

I have a theory that I will try to prove. That is the Rev. Warveteran John Liles that died in neighboring Anderson County, marriedto Nancy Soward, was Robert's father. Assuming old John was movingcloser to older sons, David and Robert. This would make the SamuelLiles, Nancy's son, a half brother. Old John's Rev War records areavailable but I don't know how he ties into the Carolina lines. Haveyou connected this individual?

I have some property record information through a daughter of Nancywho married a Talent and had property dealings in either Anson orRutherford cos with old John that I would like to explore further.

I gathered some more property data for Robert in Roane Co thatidentifies his land near Clacks Gap I drove the area and its on atributary of the Emory River. There is a Big Emory and a Little EmoryRiver. Between Kingman and Oliver Springs. Let me know if you go toKnoxville, what are you working there and in Roane?

Spent my first night in VA last Saturday - will be there againtomorrow or rather tonight start preparing to paint I'm excitedHave Rush family lines to research in Orange and Culpepper Counties
Will move permanently in June after Carl is out ofschool.........Larry Liles

married Mother Of David And Robert Liles. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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