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James served in the Spanish American War during 1898. Was not injuredduring the war. PVT CO M 3RD REG TN. Discharged as a corporal. Wasa schoolteacher, as his father, after the war.

1820 MORGAN COUNTY CENSUS, Page 2
LILES, James Head M W 48 TN Coal Miner
Ida Wife F W 34 TN
Vane Son M W 11 TN
Eugene Son M W TN

James married Ida Bell Solomon on 1 Oct 1906. Ida (daughter of James Solomon and Harriet, daughter of John W. Solomon and Harriet) was born on 2 Aug 1883; died on 26 Nov 1955; was buried in Jackson-Lyles Cemetery, Coalfield, Morgan, Tennessee, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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"Then there was Major Lindsay Liles. He was in the Cavalry Division.He was a schoolteacher after the war. He had a son, James Liles, whowas in the Spanish American War. He also was a schoolteacher"----------from "A History of the Coalfield Area" by W.B.Lyles.......NOTE:: Major Lindsey was actually in the Infantry.Headstone says: CO E 1st TN INF

1870 Morgan County Census:
LILES, MAJOR 33
LILES, NANCY 27
LILES, SARAH 10
LILES, CYNTHIA 6
LILES, MARY 5
LILES, MARION 2
HICKS, JOSEPH, 77

1880 Morgan County Census:
LILES, Mager48
LILES,Nancy Ann37
LILES,Sarah J.21
LILES,Mary B.15
LILES,Marion L.13
LILES,Cinthia An11
LILES,James A.8
LILES,Marthy7
LILES,Lathy L.5
LILES,Florance2
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May 3, 2004
Well Hello, Chester,
I've waited for some time to hear from someone about Clint Lyles.What I know about Major Lindsay Lyles is this: He served in the CivilWar, Union Infantry 5th Reg, Pvt. Major was his name, not his rank.He had 8 children. Major was said to be a son of Rebecca Liles. Hewas born 8/23/1836. He was supposed to be the half brother of ClintLyles. I have no proof of this, however, so however you can, PLEASEHELP! Major had a son, James A. Lyles (grandpa), who in turn had ason named Eugugene (dad). You may remember my uncle Vane, who was awhiz with lawn mowers. I live in Florida right now, but will berelocating in Tn. in a couple of months. I have heard of Billl Lyles,but never gotten the chance to meet him. I have heard he probablyknows more than anyone else. Have some pics of theLyles/Solomon/Davis sides. If I can help, please let me know.Someone in the family has heirlooms and picturess thathe won't letanyone in the family see them. He says if I copy the photos therewill be copies cirulating and they won't be worth anything later.
Thanks, Kathy
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Kathy: I can send you a scan of the family tree in a Bible owned bymy grandmother (granddaughter of Clint). She wrote Clint and Majorwere 1/2 brothers. Other than that, I?ve never seen anything else onpaper to back it up. Apparently she didn't know the given name ofClint and Major's mother, or anything earlier. But there is plenty ofdocumentation to prove Clint is Rebecca's son. Yes, I knew both Gene& Vane Lyles. I sold a car to Gene once, and usually I had to callVane about every other year to fix something. I always heard ClintLiles was a "man about town" and from records, he had at least threesons, which were unaccounted for. They may have died as children.Clint also had an illegitimate son who WAS accounted for and went byJackson. As for Major Lindsay, I?ve never heard anything negativeabout him. A.C. and Major had a sister (or half sister?), Rebecca F.Liles, who took after her mother. Rebecca F. married Sterling Ward.My great aunt, who's in her mid-90, says Rebecca F dropped off herson, Horace Ward, at her brother Clint's one weekend and neverreturned. People thought Horace was Clint's son, but he was actuallya nephew. You may aleady know that Horace Ward married his own firstcousin, Flora Lyles, daughter of M. L.

Another thing, Major's second wife, Elizabeth Allen was agranddaughter of Joseph Hicks. Elizabeth Allen was the daughter ofPolly Hicks and James W. Allen. Polly Hicks is Joseph's daughter.Polly's father, James W. Allen, died at the Andersonvillle Prison in GAduring the C.W. He was my gg grandfather. Elizabeth Allen's sister,Mary Founty Allen, married Joseph Miller Jones, who was my ggrandfather. I have several photos of Miller and Mary Jones. You cansee the Indian features in Mary F. Allen Jones and her brother, GeorgeAllen. There is a fellow here in Coalfield (I was told) who says hehas a photo of Joseph Hicks and won't let anyone see it. I don'treally believe that tale. BTW, I bet I know who is hoarding all thephotos you're talking about, and it's not the same person I mentionedwith the Hicks photo. Most of the time, stuff ends up in the hands ofpeople like that.

When you get back to TN, if you visit some of the courthouses andlibraries, let me warn you-- the technology is sometimes awful. Mostof the librarians are friendly and try to help, but they're limited.There might be plenty of material available, but maybe their Xeroxmachine will be broken. They may have a scanner hooked to an onlinecomputer that you could email copies to yourself or print from thecomputer printer, and they won't know how to do it. If you ask to doit yourself, they might act like you're trying to set them up or pulla fast one on them. They may have a filing cabinet full of microfilm,and the microfilm reader itself is broken, or the printer on themicrofilm reader is broken. If the microfilm reader and printer arein operating order, don't be surprised to hear, "Well, I don't knowhow to do it myself, and you're not authorized, so you'll have to comeback some day when so and so is on duty." They have a tendency inthese rural counties sometimes to hire people working for nothing orhave been around so long they don't care. If there is a rechargeable,battery-operated scanner/copier on the market, it would be a wiseinvestment. I don't think they make batteries capable of operatingsuch a device.........Hope I helped, Chester

Major married Nancy Davis. Nancy was born on 14 Sep 1842; died on 3 Aug 1890; was buried in Jackson-Lyles Cemetery, Coalfield, Morgan, Tennessee, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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James married Harriet. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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MARY HESTER vs. ABNER HESTER 10 Jul 1858
Charge: Adultery with one Rebecca Lyles further the probable commission of acts of adultery with divers lewd women. The plaintiff was restored to all rights and priviledges of a single unmarried woman. Petition: 28 May 1858.

Abner married Rebecca Liles. Rebecca (daughter of Robert D. Liles) was born about 1810 in Tennessee, United States; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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From Roane County Circuit Court

State vs Abner Hester and REBECCA LYLE -- Circuit Court -- 1845
Charges brought up at the October Term 1844. William Hester, Sr.,
William Hester, Jr., James J. Taylor and Robert McGil entered intobond with them. William Hester, Jr. and Absolem Adkisson were calledon behalf of the State.

State vs Abner Hester -- Jan 4, 1847 The defendant having brought tobar.........REBECCA LILES, the mother of the bastard child havingfailed to attend and ask for the allowance, the defendant is permittedto enter into recognicance to save the county harmless....Provided thebastard child delivered of the body of Rebecca Liles on the 23rd dayof Feb. 1843 shall not become chargeable to the county.............

State vs Abner Hester and Rebecca Lyle -- Circuit Court -- 1853
Charges brought up at the October term, 1852. Absalam Adkisson wasthe prosecutor. Witnesses: Jonas R. Arnold, Henry Liles, NewtonLiles, Thomas Liles, Lottie Thrailkill, Nimrod Underwood, Robert D.Duncan, Samuel Silvey, and Sarah Liles.

10 Jul 1858 Mary Hester vs Abner Hester
Charge: Adultery with one REBECCA LILES and divers lewd women.Plaintiff was restored to all the rights and priveleges of a singleunmarried woman. Separated 1n 1842

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1860 Census
Rebecca Liles 45 TN----Wm. 16, Abner C. 14, Rebecca F 12

REBECCA LILES vs HENRY LILES: Rebecca Liles says about the year 1844her father, Robert Liles who was very aged and blind and a citizen ofRoane County, was the owner of 200 acres of land. He made anagreement with his grandson, Henry Liles, Jr. to convey this land onthe condition that Henry would provide for the support of said Robertduring his life and make certain advances to your oratrix, and idiotsister of your oratrix named Delilah, a granddaughter named Nancy, anda bound coloured girl named Julia?..After a while, Henry & Robertdisagreed and Henry moved out.

"P. McDonald" wrote:
I am pasting in my latest theory on descendants of Robert Liles ofRoane. The only ones I can document are Rebecca, Delila the idiotand Thomas--so it is basically a list of Liles marriages and mentionsthat seem like people we don't want to rule out yet.

Court documents mention a grandson Henry Junior, which I think mustsurely be the son of Thomas--called Junior in deference to his uncle.Also mentions a granddaughter, Nancy, and a bound colored girl namedJulia. I can't place little Nancy. But a Nancy Liles m. Allen Cookin 09 Jan 1844, so it was probably the granddaughter. I have notpersued this line.

Corrections and additions invited. Comments about my senility andcreative thinking you can say to each other.
PatRobertsMcD
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Chester, glad you identified the Roberts guy who married Clint'sdaughter. He is distant kin to me, of course.

I don't subscribe to the Coalfield newsletter anymore, but I wouldlove to see a copy of what you write for them.

I will defer to Alexis on the Hacker heritage. I don't have anydocumentation on that.

As to Major Lindsey, I think we have already exchanged our comments onhim, and although I have to respect the family lore that says he ishalf brother to Clint, I cannot find any public records that wouldconfirm (or deny) this. Snyder also had this problem.

If only we could find Rebecca's listing in 1850 census, it might clearup the matter, as well as have a listing for Sarah who m. DavidMcCormick.

In 1860, Rebecca has in her household a Liles male named William, whois 16, while Abner C. is 14. I have not been able to figure out anymore about that William, born ca 1844. As you recall, she wascharged with having a bastard child born on 23rd day of February 1843in Roane Co., so that is probably the William. No further record ofhim.

Although his name COULD have been William Lindsey, or even MajorWilliam Lindsey, the age is not close enough to fit. The 1880 censusindicates "Mager Liles" was 48, making him born ca 1832. I hopesomebody will undertake the project of looking up his records again,but I am pretty sure others have tried in the past.

As to the photograph "not being worth anything" if copied I throw upmy hands. All the sensible, or even smart alec type of comments thatoccur to me seem useless. However, if a photo was made at some point,there may be other copies floating around that will eventually show u
Pat McD
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Incidentally, what is the story on this Summers girl in 1860 census?

1966-1821 Henry Lyles 60, Jane 54, James H. 21, John 18, Josiah 16,JANE SUMMERS 12

And what is the interesting story on 'Sterling Ward and Rebecca?

Pat Roberts McD
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From: Frlva@aol.com [mailto:Frlva@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 2:27 PM
To: Liles, Lawrence E.
Subject: Re: Liles

Do you know who the father was of Abner Clint Liles, who served in theCivil War? He's on the 1860 census with a female head of family thatlooks like it might be Rebecca (but very unclear). Other children wereWilliam, age 16, and Rebecca F., age 12. All living next to HenryLiles (Robert Sr.'s grandson). I've looked at all of the earliercensuses and at the 1890 veterans' list, but I cannot find out who hisfather was. He's buried in the Elverton Cemetery
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From: Frlva@aol.com [mailto:Frlva@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:18 PM
To: Liles, Lawrence E.
Subject: Re: Liles

Ah, so! My, my, what an interesting family! So, Rebecca who had A.C.,etc., was born a LILES?? Whose daughter was she? I have an 1848cohabitation verdict of the grand jury for William Liles and ElisabethMcdonell. This would have been William, son of Thomas, right? (Wholater married his "ward," Mariah Sieber, who said she'd never beenmarried before, but it looked like she had at least two children bysomeone else!). This is getting interesting!

In a message dated 2/21/2006 2:42:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,Larry_Liles@IBEW.org writes:
A.C. (18 Feb 1845) was born out of wedlock with his father being AbnerHester. I have info on Abner?s wife suing for divorce in the 1850snaming Rebecca and also another record of Rebecca suing for supportgiving William and A. C. birth dates without naming them in theBastardy Court .

Old Robert also had another daughter who had a couple of sons out ofwedlock and I have something on that too. These should account forthe children in the early census. I was unaware of this other Williamby Rebecca until Chester Spaulding, a descendent of A. C. gave me hisunproven family records within the last month This William is in therecord as born 23 Feb 1843 so would be too young for the 1848cohabitation record