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Subj:Re: [CRR] Re: Spradlin and Smith
Date:4/4/03 1:36:50 AM Pacific Standard Time
From:JoySan
To:Sch3111

Dear Sue,
I have likely the same Wm. Spradlin(g) in my files, b ca 1814, hemarried Elly or Ella Waters b ca 1816 on 8 May 1834. Elly may besister of Elizabeth Waters 1810-1865 who married Nelson Coffey and wasdaugh of Elijah Waters & Nancy Rue.
William was son of James Spradlin(g) b ca 1785 in Wilkes NC &Elizabeth "Betsy" Mounce, b 1786 in KY & died aft 1870. Wm & Betsymarried 12 Nov 1809. I have heard they had 10 children, but I do notknow any of their names. I have quite a bit of info back from JamesSpradlin(g) and will be glad to share if you don't have it. Also beinterested in those names of the children. I'll bet there is aconnection to my Smiths, since those families intermarried a lot.

Joyce

Family/Spouse: Ellie Waters. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Telitha Spradlin was born in Dec 1835 in Wayne, Kentucky, United States; died after 1876 in Whitley City, McCreary, Kentucky, United States; was buried in Tom Winkler Stephens Cemetery, Barthell, McCreary, Kentucky, United States.
2. William M. Spradlin, Jr was born on 2 Jan 1854 in Whitley City, McCreary, Kentucky, United States; died on 22 Mar 1931 in Whitley City, McCreary, Kentucky, United States.

Family/Spouse: Mary A. Manning. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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James married Betsy Mounce on 12 Nov 1809 in Wayne, Kentucky, United States. Betsy (daughter of John Mathias Mounce, Jr. and Rachel Wade) was born about 1792 in Wayne, Kentucky, United States; died before 1884. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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The ancestral property of the Spradlings was located on the countyline seperating Pittslyvania and Halifax Counties, Virginia, alongboth sides of Birches Creek and in Burke's and Wilkes County, NorthCarolina, on both sides of the Lower Little River, which is atributary of the Catawba River.

Jesse Spradling is not mentioned in any deed or other record that Ihave found in Halifax County, Virginia.
1783 Tax Roll List of Burke Co., NC;

"Jesse Spradling
1 male over 16
1 male under 16
2 females
1 black"

1790 census for Wilkes County, NC, Morgan District

"Jesse Spradling
1 male 16 and over (this would be Jesse)
1 male under 16
2 females (probably wife and daughter)"
No mention is made of the black that was in the 1783 Tax List.

"April 1790 Wilkes County, NC, James Spradling to Jesse Spradling ofBurkes County, NC; 50 lbs. for 109 acres land on line in both counties(New Line) Charles Spradling, corner. James Spradling signed (X).Witn: Charles Spradling & John Spradling, Wm. Lenoir. Wilkes County,NC Deeds 1782-1797: NC State Archives"

"28 April 1790 Wilkes County, NC. Deed Gift from James Spradling toJesse Spradling 209 acres. Court Minutes of Wilkes County, NC p13-14;NC State Archives."

Tax Roll and misc events 1790-1798.

"1790 Wilkes Co., NC--180 acres, 2 polls, Capt Foristers Dist.
1791 Wilkes Co., NC--182 acres, 2 polls, Capt Foristers Dist.
1792 Wilkes Co., NC--180 acres, 2 polls
1793 Wilkes Co., NC--180 acres, 2 polls
1795 Wilkes Co., NC--180 acres, 1 poll
1796 Wilkes Co., NC--180 or 182 acres, 1 poll"

Aug 2, 1796 Wilkes County, NC James and Jesse Spradlin on jury duty incase of Jehu Barnes. Court Minutes of Wilkes County, NC; NC StateArchives.

1797 Wilkes County, NC P20, No 24. 182 acres, 1 wh over 16, 1 blackover 16.

1797 Burke County, NC . Witn; Deed of James Spradling, 100 acres,Middle Little River. Witn. Adam Forister.

1800 Burke Co., NC census;
2 slaves;
Jesse over age 45,
1 female 26-45,
1 male 26-45,
1 male 16-26,
1 male 10-16,
1 female 10-16,
2 males under 10,
2 females under 10.

1805 Jesse Spradling bought land from James Spradling. ObadiahSpradling was a witness. Land was on Lamberts Fork of Little LowerRiver (adjoined John and Obadiah Spradlings land.) Purchased alongwith David Spradling from Robert Holmes. ( This may be the 1790transaction).

1806 May 6 Wilkes Co., NC;" Between Jesse Allen, Sheriff and JohnBrown (land lost by Jesse Spradling; action brought by GeorgeBrown); judgement executed by John M. Jones and Archer Brown,constable; for 200 acres on Co. line runs through at lower endadjoining James Brimsley Barn, George Brown, James Wallis, James Barnand Charles Spradling. Wtn. John R. Johnson and Wm. B. Lenoir."

1810 census 180 acres, 2 polls, 1 white, 1 black.

November 21, 1813 Wayne Co., Ky Marriages and Vital Statistics, Vol.2, marriages K-Z, 1801-1860 by Jane Baldwin Bork contains the folowingpassage;

"SPRADLIN, Jesse and Jincy "Jeany" Canterbury. Surety, Josua Phipps.Married 21 November 1813 by (Racoon) John Smith. Endorsement on Bond:"Parties of age". (Since Jesse would have been about 69 years old,this note may have been made in a facious or sarcastic manner.)

Early American Marriages, Atlantic South Regions gives the sameinformation as above, but calls her "Jenny" instead of "Jeany".

A Jesse Spradling married a Sally Stone in Floyd County, Kentucky onSep 13, 1820. From "Maryland Revolutionary Records by Harry WrightNewman with hand written annotation giving date and location ofmarriage. I don't know who this could be.

1820 Wayne County, KY census ;

Spradling, Jesse 2 - -- - 1 1 - - 1 - -- -

1 male 1810-1820
1 male 1810-1820
1 male over 45 (Jesse)

1 female 1810-1820
1 female 1775-1795 (Jenny / Jeany )

November 1832 Tax Roll-delinquent list- Jesse Spradlin exempt fromcounty levy.

County Court House Claims from Wayne Co., Ky. lists "October 4, 1849visit and remove bandages on Jesse Spradlin" (Dr. D. E. Hall visitedand removed bandages from Jesse Spradlin, 50 cents.)

1850 Wayne County census extract lists the following in Household #318

Charity Ray 70 NC
Jesse Spradlin 106 " pauper
Polley McLane 30 VA
Jackson Coffey 25 Ky labor
John Nokes 18 " pauper
Martha Coffey 17 Ky
Matilda McLane 4 "

His son James wife, Elizabeth Mounce, was born about 1792. If weassume James was 21 years old when he married her on Nov 12 or 19,1809, then he would have been born in 1788. This indicates that Jeany(or Jenny?) Canterbury could not have been James mother since she didnot marry Jesse until 1813. His mother must have been ElizabethColquitt if in fact this is the correct Jesse. There are other JesseSpradlings alive at this time and I don't know anything about theirgeneaologys. One of thehese other wives of a Jesse Spradling is SallyStone who did not marry until 1820, so she could not have been themother of James. Also, Gene Starks page on the internet indicatesthat Jesse Spradling married a woman named Mary Appling, but there isno indication of where or when.

Jesse married Elizabeth Colquitt on 12 Jan 1781 in Halifax, Halifax, Virginia, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Ancestry.com marriage records from Halifax Co., Virginia lists a JesseSpradling m. Elizabeth Callquit, 12 Jan 1781.

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Subj: Re: [SLAVEN/Y] Susannah Mable Mounts
Date: 12/7/04 8:43:02 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: IArooster@earthlink.net
Reply-to: iarooster@earthlink.net
To: SLAVEN-SLAVEY-L@rootsweb.com
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> I heard once that her name may have been Mounce and that she may bea sister
> to John Mounce. Has anyone else ever heard this? Just curious!
> Sue Hasty

For what it's worth, Samuel D. Perry's "South Fork Country" states onpage 107
"Few families in the region had as close contact with the Cherokee asdid that
of John Mounce (Mounts). John is believed to have been a brother ofSusannah
Mabel Mounts who moved to Wayne County, Kentucky from Gararrd County,with her
husband Richard Harve Slavey, shortly after Wayne County was createdin
1800..."

There's no source for this assertion. The story that follows isattributed to
Obie Coffey, "one of the last remaining 'shade tree hstorians' whocould bridge
Cherokee history with white. Of Cherokee descent himself, he usuallygot it
right."

John married Rachel Wade on 26 Jan 1781 in Madison, Kentucky, United States. Rachel (daughter of Dawson Wade and Rachel Burnside) was born in 1769; died before 1839 in Wayne, Kentucky, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Subj: Re: [CRR] Joseph Wade, s/o Dawson WADE, & Peggy Mounce
Date: 12/1/04 1:04:03 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: gmcflc@bellsouth.net
To: CUMBERLAND-RIVER-L@rootsweb.com
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That's a very good question. Rachel Wade, sister of Joseph, marriedJohn
MOUNCE. I assume this would have been John Mounce JR. John & RachelMounce
took up residence in Wayne County. I also note that Dawson Wade wasin
Wayne in 1810 and received a 200 acre grant. I think this must havebeen
Dawson JR, as Dawson SR died in Montgomery Co KY. I also note thatboth
Dawson WADE (SR & JR) and Richard WADE SR were in Madison Countybefore 1800
This may mean that the Mounce family was also there, but I have not
checked into it.

Richard WADE SR was married to Judith HANCOCK, and they also came toWayne
County. I have not made a connection, but believe Judith was relatedto
Benjamin Hancock, who came to Wayne from Guilford Co, NC, and to JohnD.
Hancock, whose son Major Hancock came to Wayne from Patrick Co VA.

All this also ties into my husband's ancestor Samuel Clark b. 1775,who also
now appears to have come to Wayne County from Madison County. He is
enumerated on the Madison County tax list with his father Thomas Clarkin
1796 In Wayne County in 1829 Samuel Clark married Hannah James, thewidow
of Elisha WADE, whom she had married in Madison County in 1792.Elisha WADE
was born 1773 to Richard WADE SR and Judith HANCOCK in Goochland CoVA.

I don't know about Dawson WADE SR or John MOUNCE SR, but I do knowthat
Richard WADE SR and Judith HANCOCK's brothers were stationed at Ft.Boone in
Madison County. It may be that John Mounce SR had a brother whofought and
died during the war or as a result of an Indian raid. Joseph Wade wasnot
old enough to have fought in the Revolutionary War, but he appears tobe of
the generation of those who were children of Revolutionary War vets.That
would place Peggy (and, yes, Peggy is a nickname for Margaret) Mouncein the
same generation with Dawson JR, John Mounce JR and Rachel Wade.Assuming
she was 17 when she was married in 1793, that would give an est. dobof 1776
She needed the consent of her parent/guardian to marry, which meansshe
was not yet 21 yrs of age. I don't know how old Joseph was, but I doknow
that his sister Rachel Wade Mounce had a daughter born in 1792, givingan
est. year of birth of 1772. Joseph & Peggy could have been bornanywhere in
that time frame.

Fay Clark

-------Original Message-------

From: Brenda Sampsel
Date: 12/01/04 09:57:25
To: Fay Clark; CUMBERLAND-RIVER-L-request@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CRR] Joseph Wade, s/o Dawson WADE, & Peggy Mounce

Peggy is an orphan...Is John Mounce, Sr. her uncle???? Who are theparents
of Peggy/Margaret Mounce?

1793 Clark Co. KY Marriages (at the Rootsweb page)
25th May

"Joseph Wade & Peggy Mounce [Margaret????]
Bondsman Dawson Wade
Teste: D. Bullock
Consent of John Mounce, Sr., guardian of Peggy Mounce, an orphan,Attested
by Dawson Wade, Senior & John Mounce, Jr."

Subj: Re: [CRR] Joseph Wade, s/o Dawson WADE, & Peggy Mounce
Date: 12/1/04 3:54:05 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: gmcflc@bellsouth.net
To: CUMBERLAND-RIVER-L@rootsweb.com
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As an addendum to the below message, June Bork informs me that shebelieves
the age of majority for brides was 18; for grooms, 21. That being thecase,
Peggy Mounce would have been no older than 17 when she married JosephWade
in 1793.

Fay Clark

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James married Sarah. Sarah died after 1805. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Jonathon married Tabitha Ransome. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Wade Elise M. Breen
Seeking information on the Wade family who lived "on the western slopeof the Alleghenies" of Greenbriar Cty, VA (now West Virginia) in the1770s. Father is Dawson Wade (may have other first or second name),mother is Rachel?? Children are John; James (m. Nancy Baye); Esther(m. John Pleak); Nancy (m. Thomas Moore); Joseph (m. Peggy Mounce),Dawson Wade, Jr.; Elizabeth (m. ?? Jones); Margaret (m. Isaac Keeton);Rachel (m. John Mounce). The family moved to KY via the WildernessRoad in the Fall of 1784 and eventually settled in present-dayMontgomery County, KY (by 1790
Found online.

May 1780
David Finley enters three hundred acres preemption upon a treasurywarrant adjoining John Mounce's preemption of four hundred acres onSilver Creek on the north side there of the east side of the creek.May 20 or 26 1780. (Madison County, Virginia, now Kentucky, LandEntries 1780-1793, p. 4)
Found online at Ancestry.com

John married Mary Smith on 28 Feb 1781 in Garrard, Kentucky, United States. Mary was born about 1730 in Albion, Nicholas, West Virginia, United States; died after 1779. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Dawson married Rachel Burnside. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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