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- From Roane County Circuit Court
State vs Abner Hester and REBECCA LYLE -- Circuit Court -- 1845
Charges brought up at the October Term 1844. William Hester, Sr.,
William Hester, Jr., James J. Taylor and Robert McGil entered intobond with them. William Hester, Jr. and Absolem Adkisson were calledon behalf of the State.
State vs Abner Hester -- Jan 4, 1847 The defendant having brought tobar.........REBECCA LILES, the mother of the bastard child havingfailed to attend and ask for the allowance, the defendant is permittedto enter into recognicance to save the county harmless....Provided thebastard child delivered of the body of Rebecca Liles on the 23rd dayof Feb. 1843 shall not become chargeable to the county.............
State vs Abner Hester and Rebecca Lyle -- Circuit Court -- 1853
Charges brought up at the October term, 1852. Absalam Adkisson wasthe prosecutor. Witnesses: Jonas R. Arnold, Henry Liles, NewtonLiles, Thomas Liles, Lottie Thrailkill, Nimrod Underwood, Robert D.Duncan, Samuel Silvey, and Sarah Liles.
10 Jul 1858 Mary Hester vs Abner Hester
Charge: Adultery with one REBECCA LILES and divers lewd women.Plaintiff was restored to all the rights and priveleges of a singleunmarried woman. Separated 1n 1842
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1860 Census
Rebecca Liles 45 TN----Wm. 16, Abner C. 14, Rebecca F 12
REBECCA LILES vs HENRY LILES: Rebecca Liles says about the year 1844her father, Robert Liles who was very aged and blind and a citizen ofRoane County, was the owner of 200 acres of land. He made anagreement with his grandson, Henry Liles, Jr. to convey this land onthe condition that Henry would provide for the support of said Robertduring his life and make certain advances to your oratrix, and idiotsister of your oratrix named Delilah, a granddaughter named Nancy, anda bound coloured girl named Julia?..After a while, Henry & Robertdisagreed and Henry moved out.
"P. McDonald" wrote:
I am pasting in my latest theory on descendants of Robert Liles ofRoane. The only ones I can document are Rebecca, Delila the idiotand Thomas--so it is basically a list of Liles marriages and mentionsthat seem like people we don't want to rule out yet.
Court documents mention a grandson Henry Junior, which I think mustsurely be the son of Thomas--called Junior in deference to his uncle.Also mentions a granddaughter, Nancy, and a bound colored girl namedJulia. I can't place little Nancy. But a Nancy Liles m. Allen Cookin 09 Jan 1844, so it was probably the granddaughter. I have notpersued this line.
Corrections and additions invited. Comments about my senility andcreative thinking you can say to each other.
PatRobertsMcD
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Chester, glad you identified the Roberts guy who married Clint'sdaughter. He is distant kin to me, of course.
I don't subscribe to the Coalfield newsletter anymore, but I wouldlove to see a copy of what you write for them.
I will defer to Alexis on the Hacker heritage. I don't have anydocumentation on that.
As to Major Lindsey, I think we have already exchanged our comments onhim, and although I have to respect the family lore that says he ishalf brother to Clint, I cannot find any public records that wouldconfirm (or deny) this. Snyder also had this problem.
If only we could find Rebecca's listing in 1850 census, it might clearup the matter, as well as have a listing for Sarah who m. DavidMcCormick.
In 1860, Rebecca has in her household a Liles male named William, whois 16, while Abner C. is 14. I have not been able to figure out anymore about that William, born ca 1844. As you recall, she wascharged with having a bastard child born on 23rd day of February 1843in Roane Co., so that is probably the William. No further record ofhim.
Although his name COULD have been William Lindsey, or even MajorWilliam Lindsey, the age is not close enough to fit. The 1880 censusindicates "Mager Liles" was 48, making him born ca 1832. I hopesomebody will undertake the project of looking up his records again,but I am pretty sure others have tried in the past.
As to the photograph "not being worth anything" if copied I throw upmy hands. All the sensible, or even smart alec type of comments thatoccur to me seem useless. However, if a photo was made at some point,there may be other copies floating around that will eventually show u
Pat McD
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Incidentally, what is the story on this Summers girl in 1860 census?
1966-1821 Henry Lyles 60, Jane 54, James H. 21, John 18, Josiah 16,JANE SUMMERS 12
And what is the interesting story on 'Sterling Ward and Rebecca?
Pat Roberts McD
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From: Frlva@aol.com [mailto:Frlva@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 2:27 PM
To: Liles, Lawrence E.
Subject: Re: Liles
Do you know who the father was of Abner Clint Liles, who served in theCivil War? He's on the 1860 census with a female head of family thatlooks like it might be Rebecca (but very unclear). Other children wereWilliam, age 16, and Rebecca F., age 12. All living next to HenryLiles (Robert Sr.'s grandson). I've looked at all of the earliercensuses and at the 1890 veterans' list, but I cannot find out who hisfather was. He's buried in the Elverton Cemetery
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From: Frlva@aol.com [mailto:Frlva@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:18 PM
To: Liles, Lawrence E.
Subject: Re: Liles
Ah, so! My, my, what an interesting family! So, Rebecca who had A.C.,etc., was born a LILES?? Whose daughter was she? I have an 1848cohabitation verdict of the grand jury for William Liles and ElisabethMcdonell. This would have been William, son of Thomas, right? (Wholater married his "ward," Mariah Sieber, who said she'd never beenmarried before, but it looked like she had at least two children bysomeone else!). This is getting interesting!
In a message dated 2/21/2006 2:42:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,Larry_Liles@IBEW.org writes:
A.C. (18 Feb 1845) was born out of wedlock with his father being AbnerHester. I have info on Abner?s wife suing for divorce in the 1850snaming Rebecca and also another record of Rebecca suing for supportgiving William and A. C. birth dates without naming them in theBastardy Court .
Old Robert also had another daughter who had a couple of sons out ofwedlock and I have something on that too. These should account forthe children in the early census. I was unaware of this other Williamby Rebecca until Chester Spaulding, a descendent of A. C. gave me hisunproven family records within the last month This William is in therecord as born 23 Feb 1843 so would be too young for the 1848cohabitation record
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Abt 1810 - Yes, date unknown
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